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Flotsam
Link to this postPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:35 am    Post subject: Question Taking a BVI break, favorite alternative destinations?

We've sailed the BVI for more times than I can recall off hand, and while we'll certainly be back, we would like to venture forth and try somewhere else. I'd love some first-hand suggestions re/ island(s), charter company used, favorite harbors, restaurants, etc. Doesn't need to be long or in any more detail than you wish, just looking for some trustworthy advice to point me in a good general direction.

Thanks in advance, cheers
Flotsam
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Herve
Link to this postPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:56 am    

Grenadines without a doubt
Charter out of blue lagoon in st Vincent
Moorings for premier boats , barefoot for 2 nd tier

Second choice is the Abacos
Again moorings out of Marsh Harbor
I would not charter from 2nd tier
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walker
Link to this postPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:26 pm    

The Grenadines are a must-see. I second Barefoot out of St. Vincent.
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DawnB
Link to this postPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:00 pm    

Third vote for Grenadines & Barefoot. And make sure you spend some time on St. Vincent before or after... Keishawn is a great driver/guide, and the island is really lovely - one of my favourites.
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DawnB
Link to this postPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:18 am    Post subject: Note Horizon new location St. Vincent!

I just this morning received an email from Horizon announcing their new location in St. Vincent at Blue Lagoon, same location as Barefoot & TMM - so the choices are getting better! It looks like they also still have their Grenada location.

Here's a nice link to their St. Vincent location, with a video of sailing the Grenadines...

http://horizonyachtcharters.com/stvincent/?utm_source=Horizon+Yacht+Charters+Newsletters&utm_campaign=4e5c3cea28-LOS+June+2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c92da00c11-4e5c3cea28-36403437
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Twanger
Link to this postPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:57 am    

DawnB wrote:
Third vote for Grenadines & Barefoot. And make sure you spend some time on St. Vincent before or after... Keishawn is a great driver/guide, and the island is really lovely - one of my favourites.


+4!

We hired Keishawn to drive us around the island for a whole day, and it was great!
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DawnB
Link to this postPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:55 am    

Yes, by your recommendation, we asked for him specifically, it turns out his Aunt is the guide we had the 1st time we went there, back in 1999! What a reunion that was!

Wish I was going back sometime soon... ~sigh~
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RickH
Link to this postPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:57 pm    

Hey Guys and Gals,
Had a real long conversation with Keishawn's Aunt and she said he has gone to OTHER interests. What a shame. Great guy, we were true friends and he would always remember me as the only one to Charter their 52.2, Capt. only, as a Bareboat.
Seth is on an extended sabbatical and taking some well deserved time to himself.
I've met the new GM that lets Mary takes some time to herself. Good guy.
All in all I give Barefoot 5 thumbs up.
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Flotsam
Link to this postPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:04 am    

Very interesting, and useful, see, this is why I love forums like this. Grenadines would not have been my first impulse, glad I asked. The Cruising Guide to the Leeward Islands 2014-2015 edition by Chris Doyle arrives tomorrow.

Please feel free to continue the above conversation; further suggestions, advice, insights, comments, observations, snide & sarcastic remarks, etc. still welcome as always.

cheers
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walker
Link to this postPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:53 am    

My collection of photos from our Grenadines trip is here.
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DawnB
Link to this postPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:18 pm    

Oh! To be back!

We spend 14 days in the Grenadines. Two days at most places, was very relaxing!

I would definitely recommend Bequia, and if you get a chance, stay a night at Petit Nevis, just south of Friendship Bay.

We spent two nights in Tobago Cays, and then another two nights on the way back up... loved having 14 days!

My photos are here - you do not need to be a facebook member:

Grenadines

Grenadines Part 1

Grenadines Part 2

Mayreau is my FAVOURITE place in all of the world...so far. We love bringing stuff that they may need, let me know if you're interested, I'll give you some email addresses...
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DawnB
Link to this postPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:20 pm    

walker wrote:
My collection of photos from our Grenadines trip is here.


Walker, we definitely have to do a sailing trip together! Let's try planning something for 2015?
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BEERMAN
Link to this postPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:51 pm    

My wife has been talking about the Grenadines the last year or so and I've always wanted to see Bequia, all your photo's are terrific! Less than 4 weeks and we'll be heading up the channel towards Anegada....the days are just creeping by.............
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Herve
Link to this postPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:42 pm    

The info is now a little dated but it's a great read

PS: all the material referencing a guy named Herve is pure fabrication and has nothing to do with me

http://www.usual-suspects-sailing.com
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RickH
Link to this postPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:32 pm    

Herve wrote:
PS: all the material referencing a guy named Herve is pure fabrication and has nothing to do with me

http://www.usual-suspects-sailing.com


B.S. devil
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Flotsam
Link to this postPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:15 pm    

Looking at all of your photos and reading the websites (even discounting any and all "Herve" references) is convincing me... one quick question: How do you get to St. Vincent from, say, Detroit? Looks like I've got to fly to Barbados via Miami, then separate SVG flight on to St. Vincent. Almost looks like it would make sense for us to spend a night in MIA in order to catch the 9:55 am flight to BGI, otherwise we'll miss the 16:00 flight over to St. Vincent. Once there, do you prefer to stay the night in a hotel and begin your charter the next morning, or board yet that evening and do briefings etc. before heading out the next morning?

Not quite as easy as getting to West End.
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Herve
Link to this postPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:30 pm    

Getting there is a bitch
I've gone the Barbados route a couple times and got stranded there
The other way I've tried was via st Martin and Antigua.... Not great either
One interesting idea is a charter from Martinique
There are a bunch of French operators doing that but it's typically with a captain
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walker
Link to this postPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:42 pm    

I agree - it's a bitch getting there. LIAT is the only airline into St. Vincent. Going down, we traveled from Beef Island via St. Martin and Antigua to SVD. Returning to the states, we had to overnight on Barbados, then through Miami to Houston.
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Scripty
Link to this postPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:22 pm    

DawnB wrote:
walker wrote:
My collection of photos from our Grenadines trip is here.


Walker, we definitely have to do a sailing trip together! Let's try planning something for 2015?


Ohhhhhh... can I come too? Pretty please????

I was there in October and would love to go back and I can't imagine a more fun group to go with!
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DawnB
Link to this postPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:57 pm    

We're lucky in that Toronto has direct flights to Barbados. Not too far from Detroit? For us it's easier than getting to the BVI's.

We flew SVG Air from Barbados to St. Vincent. We avoid LiAT at all costs. SVG was great - a little more money than LIAT, but on time, professional, but not always direct to St. Vincent - we went to Union, Carriacou, Bequia then St. Vincent - but it was a great way to see a lot of the places you'd be sailing to!
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Twanger
Link to this postPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:19 pm    

We flew from Dulles to Barbados, and then took LIAT to St. Vincent, same day.
We spent two nights on St. Vincent prior to our charter just as a buffer against temporarily lost bags and to recover a bit from traveling before sailing to the Grenadines.

On the way back we overnighted in Barbados.
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DawnB
Link to this postPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:31 pm    

We stay a few days at Beachcombers, they even will freeze our purchased meats for us for our charter, the staff always go out of their way for us, even making breakfast for us earlier than posted due to early flights one time.

Last time we also spent our last night at Barefoot's hotel, and ate several meals at their restaurant, Driftwoods, both excellent.
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Twanger
Link to this postPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:47 pm    

I liked the little Hotel at Barefoot, and the food was excellent.
Our room AC unit struggled, but we were ok.
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Flotsam
Link to this postPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:11 am    

I really appreciate all of this information, I find myself increasingly serious about choosing the Grenadines as our next destination.

As I did (way back when) the first time I visited the BVI, I'm considering doing a crewed charter, not because we couldn't bareboat, but just to make it easier on myself the first time in unfamiliar waters, to take advantage of a local skipper's "inside dope" on the best spots to visit, and to give the cooks a break for once. Any suggestions/recommendations as to a good crewed cat for 3 to 4 couples who works this area?
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Twanger
Link to this postPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:16 am    

The largest Cats might accommodate four couples, but your chances of finding a crewed charter is probably better with three couples. Few cats have more than 4 staterooms unless you get into the "really big and expensive" class.

I don't have any specific recommendations, but Barefoot might be able to help you.
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Flotsam
Link to this postPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:22 am    

Twanger wrote:
The largest Cats might accommodate four couples, but your chances of finding a crewed charter is probably better with three couples. Few cats have more than 4 staterooms unless you get into the "really big and expensive" class.


Yeah, I thought about that as I wrote it. Our last bareboat was Voyage's 58 which would work with 4 couples and crew, but I'm not sure how many cats that size hang out in the Grenadines.
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Twanger
Link to this postPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:45 am    

Flotsam wrote:
Twanger wrote:
The largest Cats might accommodate four couples, but your chances of finding a crewed charter is probably better with three couples. Few cats have more than 4 staterooms unless you get into the "really big and expensive" class.


Yeah, I thought about that as I wrote it. Our last bareboat was Voyage's 58 which would work with 4 couples and crew, but I'm not sure how many cats that size hang out in the Grenadines.


I saw nothing that big (58 ft) on our trip a few years back.
Doesn't mean it doesn't exist though.
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DawnB
Link to this postPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:59 pm    

Barefoot does have a sailing school, so they might be able to accomodate you with a Captaiin/Chef combo. Also, some crewed charter boats head south and offer charters while there. Horiizon has an optiom for 3 couples, if you google crewed charter yachts grenadines, lots of choices pop up, but mostly for 3 couples.

If I was going the passenger route, I'd pobably try the Diamante. We saw it in a few anchorages while sailing around, it looks like it could be fun with the right group - and if you had six to eight it would be.

http://www.sailingshipadventures.com/index.cfm?event=GetVesselDetails&VesselID=144
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